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      "commentText": "This is a shame that something like this is happening in the U. S. but  I totally understand why.  I'm sure they want to push all the residents out so that gentrification can move in.  I am reading comments that welfare needs to end.  I say lets start with Corporate welfare.",
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      "commentText": "Their are International human right laws that as stated in this artical that the water can not be turned off. The City had enough money to carry these folks if they paid that kind of money to a contractor! ",
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      "commentText": "If you don't pay your bills,  your water gets shut off.   They should have done it a long time ago.  Too many people in this country are living on welfare and this is just another form of it. ",
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      "commentText": "Basic word problem:  Assume everyone that was going to have their water cut off owed $500. Since the city had enough money to hire a contractor for $5.6 million to shut water off, how many people could the city have forgiven their water bill debt and given a fresh start?\r\n$5,600,000 / $500=11,200 people. \r\nThe article states that 10,000 people have their water turned off. \r\nI did the math, you decide what is right or wrong. ",
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          "commentText": "Your point is that free loaders should keep free loading and someone will always bail them out?? NO!! People can't keep depending on the governmen to wipe out their bills for them. This should only happen in extreme circumstances or injury. Not because of welfare handed down from one generation to the next and so on. This needs to stop. Handouts need to stop! If these people can get off their assessment to get out and protest they can work. Get a job and work at walmart. Do something to help themself! ",
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And so it seems today's financiers and political class have a similar strategy where indebted households are concerned: pile on the pressure to clear mortgaged properties with replacement families who will proceed to pay-off the debt or face dispossession in turn. The state taking on rehousing and health costs. So water charging is the key to the door of dispossession freeing the market up for the bankers while offering clientele socialists a ready made and compliant addition to the dependent masses. Sure you couldn't have enough social dependency now could you? You have to see how the deal goes down to understand who benefits and why and let's face it water charging is not a real issue for the administrative classes.\r\n\r\nMeanwhile the Greens skulk away in the background having provided the green-washed rational just as they are also doing with respect to carbon taxing. How given that they are even more diminutive than the PDs once were - having no TD's - have they pulled this stunt off and why are Sinn Fein taking their cues from a now defunct Green Party rather than the Socialist Left? Because Gerry, not being fond of experts, and people being predisposed to plagiarism and poaching of policies, preferred to lift 'Greentink', presenting it as their own. As my fellow parishioner and Krishna Consciousness head - Damien Creggan - called today highlighting the topic I thought I best take to my electronic waffling machine for an hour or so and offer prognosis. \r\n\r\nJust to go back to the Rural Group Water Schemes annual allowance of 140M cubed or 140'000litres per rural household. My wife I and, being a two person household, use 70MC approx per annum and so are not charged. Getting rid of the bath - in favour of power showers - dramatically reduces water consumption as does not having a lawn - and we have neither. The scheme is of course a rural resource cooperative and as such our connection fee of €2'000 converted to 2'000 shares which entitles us to attend, vote and seek nomination at AGM. There is a derisory charge of €1.66 percubic meter above the 140M allowance. In an urban context that could easily be €10 per cubic meter given a generous universal household allowance of 140M. It seems Cromwellian to be basing charges on the kind of household occupancy survey which has been advanced in Ireland. Far simpler to have a generous universal household allowance and to surcharge excessive usage which will typically arise from households having baths, jacuzzi and watering lawns. 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